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Posted on Sep 08, 2017 at 11:17 PM this is a bit of a rant.  But bare with me.


Back in the day, nudism meant completely naked.  Many resorts would not even give visitors a tour until they undressed first.


Somewhere along the line resorts changed their policy to "clothing-optional."  And not to sound sexist, but the primary reason for that was to attract more women to nudism.  It gave them the option of not always have to be completely naked and experience nudism at a "slower pace" if they were shy or reluctant.  But this change came at a cost.


Mind you, I am not "anti-clothing-optional."  As a matter of fact I would have never gotten my wife to try nudism without that option.  When we went to the resort for the first time, she got to stay covered.  That allowed her to walk around for a bit, without stress, and experience the resort and see other nudists without feeling pressured to get naked. 

After a while of walking around she felt comfortable enough to free her breasts.  Then she felt comfortable enough to get naked outside the pool area and get a feel for her naked body being out in the open; but away from other people.  Finally she felt good about being naked, her confidence went up; and she decided to go introduce herself to other nudists.  After chatting she was ok with being completely naked around other nudists.


So without that "clothing-optional" policy she would have never gotten comfortable with the idea of being socially nude.  The short term benefit of "clothing-optional" was evident.


But the problem with C-O is that it does not offer a long-term solution.  For some people, who are really disinterested in complete nudity for whatever reason, C-O become a easy way out.  That's when we risk the issue of textile proliferation: when many people actually choose to stay covered.  I've seen it happen with women and their sarongs; and teens staying covered outside the pool area.  

The problem there is that when visitors come in and see textile proliferation, they will often be less inclined to disrobe or stay naked themselves.  Just as nudity can be communicative, textilism can be as well.


I've often seen shy newbies arrive at the resort, covered, and find themselves in the midst of completely naked people.  More often than not, they end up naked by the end of the day.  My wife once met a shy newbie at the resort; she was there with her husband and did not want to be naked.  But after conversating with my wife, and observing her completely and comfortably naked, she decided she wanted "in", undressed and hung out naked with my wife.

And I've seen the opposite happen as well.  Situations where too many people were covered; and newbie deciding to stay covered as well.


Far from me to impose on women (and teens) that they be forced to be naked after their first visit.  But I think they should really consider the impact on the nudist environment their textilism might have.  If they really have no intention of being completely naked, they should consider the reason they are there in the first place.  There are plenty of places people can keep their clothes on.






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Posted on Apr 07, 2018 at 06:54 AM

The only issue with CO is if they get the upper hand and the beach, pond. lake, river returns to Clothing only. This has happened in Big Sur CA, sadly the aanr AND TNS have dropped the ball and allowed nudists' misbehaviors in public to give Textiles good reason to close the beaches and have clothing only beaches. The human animal is a beautiful thing but plain out sex on in public no matter WAHAT the venue is,.., IS WRONG. Get e room and go at it. So in many cases, it is not the person wearing clothing that is the problem,..., it's the naked folks thinking nudity is the majority in our USA Society and their behavior would not cut it in any venue. Been a Naturist ALL MY LIFE and have seen a lot of nude places closed up because of the nudists' behavior. You can not act like you own a beach, make it your own "SEE US SCREWING"  bedroom when others are around, especially when children are there for sure. SO I guess the Naked Society deserves to be owned by the aanr and TNS, making money hand over fist corralling you into resorts. I for one bought my country property so I could NOT be owned by the naked industry and follow my Naturist's Ways.

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Posted on Feb 03, 2018 at 11:17 AM

It used to bother me until I started traveling to Europe.  Beaches in France and Spain that I've been to are always mixed with some people clothed and some naked, and it doesn't seem to bother anyone.  So I've since changed my attitude.  I love being naked outdoors.  If others are not, that's fine with me.  If they just want to enjoy looking at me enjoying myself, that's fine too.

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Posted on Jan 14, 2018 at 07:55 PM

Totally agree

  I have gone to a C.O. beach in Toronto and as I enjoy walking up and down the beach instead of just laying in the sun all day I have noticed that there are multitudinous people opting to stay covered. This makes me wonder if they are just there for a quick thrill and an ogle at the few fully nude people there. As I walked up and down I felt I was the ONLY fully naked person. There were a lot of groups of younger people who seemed to have no interest in fully disrobing but just wanted to be on a 'nude beach'. I should add that there is a regular beach, actually make that an EMPTY regular beach, beside the C.O. beach.

  I have since started going to a private beach (located beside a public Provincial beach) on Lake Huron. While this beach is on private land, there is no charge - except for the parking - which is on the Provincial park area. Also, the 'textiles'  don't seem to wander up to the private area. Here the majority of people coming on to the beach disrobe fully. Far better atmosphere than being in the minority.

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